Presidential Debating

January 31, 2008 at 12:40 am 5 comments

It’s been a bad week for my presidential picks… first Kucinich and now Edwards, and I, like many others, am trying to decide who will get my vote on Super Tuesday.  To be honest I’m not truly passionate for either Obama or Clinton, but I know that I do want a Democrat in the White House on January 20, 2009 (my 40th birthday!).  I loved Bill Clinton in the ’90’s.  I think that with all his faults (and who doesn’t have faults?) he was a reasonably good leader and he left the country in better shape than when he took office.  I can’t say the same for George W.  But can my love of Bill transcend into love of Hillary?  I wish it could.  I wanted to like her.  In fact, I wanted to love her.  But I don’t.

It isn’t that I don’t think she could be a decent leader.  I know that she would be enormously better than the cretin we currently have running our country.  It isn’t that I don’t think she’s smart.  I think she’s a brilliant politician and an intelligent woman.  It isn’t that I don’t think a woman can be president.  Hell, I grew up being told that even *I* could be president and I’m definitely female.  I believe that women can definitely be president, and SHOULD be president. 

What I do think is that if Hillary gets the nomination she cannot win the presidency.  Why?  Because while she is smart and politically savvy, she is also widely disliked by people on both sides of the political aisle.  And while I don’t believe that the democrats who hate Hillary would cross sides and vote Republican (though it COULD happen), I do fear that many Democrats would simply stay home and not vote at all, thus giving the election to the Republicans who will have come out in force to oppose Hillary. 

Do I love Obama?  No.  Do I hate Hillary?  No.  Do I want a Democrat for my 40th Birthday?  Hell yes.  Who do I think that Democrat will be?  I think it will be Barack Obama.  So, for now, my vote and my support will go to him. 


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  • 1. Scott-O-Rama  |  January 31, 2008 at 12:58 am

    I agree with you on wanting to win, but I’m not sure that Obama can either. If McCain goes up as the Republican candidate, I don’t think Obama or Hillary can win.

    That being said, if I feel Obama stands a greater chance than Hillary, I’ll vote for him. I don’t feel that right now, so I’ll go with which one I agree with more on the issues, and that’s Hillary.

    Besides, the media is always playing up how much Hillary is disliked, but she also has a really large number of people who love her and will get out to vote for her. The election results in NH, NV, and FL are indicators of that.

  • 2. DANI  |  January 31, 2008 at 1:19 am

    Pumpkin, if you want a Democrat in office, it must be Hilary. Right now, Republicans are projecting Hilary will win and is the best democratic candidate, and many of them are so dissatisfied w/Bush b/c of the war. So they are willing to vote Democratic in the next election. Finally, if you think people hate Hilary more than Obama, the silent Obama haters will leave their trenches to make sure they never have to salute him as the commander-in-chief. The silent mask wearers won’t let Obama rule this country, unfortunately. So Hilary is the best bet.

  • 3. chollachick  |  January 31, 2008 at 1:21 am

    One concern I have with Hillary is that I think the Republicans WANT to run against her. Perhaps I am wrong (I hope I am) but I think that she would be easier to beat. And my big fear is that Michael Bloomberg will enter the race with his unending wealth and splinter the vote even more. And if you really want to be frightened (and perhaps move to Europe) consider what may happen if McCain gets the nomination and the names Bloomberg as his running mate… it’s a truly frightening concept. Freddie Krueger has nothing on a McCain/Bloomberg presidential bid.

  • 4. Scott-O-Rama  |  January 31, 2008 at 5:57 am

    I’m beginning to think that maybe Hillary’s chances of winning are just as good as Obama’s. For one, she’s surprising everyone in how passionate her followers are. Even though there were to be no delegates awarded in Florida, her followers not only came out and voted, but there were more of them voting for her than did McCain.

    Also, she has already gone through the intense scrutiny of the Republican machine. The best they could find was Whitewater, and that turned out to be nothing. Bill’s affair? Personally I admire a woman (or man) who is committed enough to their marriage to try and make it work (although I think the real reason they stayed together was for political purposes).

    Obama is untested. When Bill Clinton turned up the heat on him, he reacted badly. It’s only going to get worse, much worse, if he becomes the nominee. There might still be skeletons in Obama’s closet that we don’t know about. The Republicans wouldn’t play that card this early; they would wait until he becomes the party’s candidate.

    One last thing that makes me think Hillary stands as good of chance as Obama: Buckaroo’s dad. He lives in Nevada and he did caucus. When Buckaroo asked him about it he said he voted for Hillary. Why? Well he liked Bill Clinton as President, and he frankly didn’t feel too comfortable with Obama. The specific thing he mentioned was the incident where Obama refused to put his hand over his heart while the national anthem played:

    That incident did not sit well with Buckaroo’s dad who is a veteran. It’s little things like that that show how green Obama is and make him vulnerable. Hillary has more political savvy and knows to avoid controversial behavior like that.

  • 5. Kapitan Mors  |  February 1, 2008 at 10:30 am

    I agree with you that Barack is more electable than Hillary. In polling my associates, most of whom lie somewhat to the right of Genghiz Khan politically, I note a strong whiff of sublimated rage toward Hillary – it’s almost as though they’ve reconciled themselves to a “Well, at least Hillary didn’t win” kind of moral victory. They couldn’t beat Bill, but they can beat his wife, and after that, it’s Miller Time.

    But I personally am not all that frightened of John “Say What?” McCain – his only real hope is to attract a large crossover vote because he can’t hold the Republican base, and I don’t think Obama will give him access to a large crossover vote. And besides, the “Straight Talk Express” turns into the “Goofball Talk Express” often enough that I don’t think McCain can win. Can you see the evangelical right turning out for him? Nope, me either. They’ll stay home, the Hillary-Haters will stay home, and Obama will win.

    And just after that, David Hasselhoff gets a new TV show. How’s that for a rakish prediction??


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